Mario.Wolczko at Eng.Sun.COM
Thu Jun 6 20:47:16 UTC 1996
Date: Thu, 6 Jun 1996 15:19:45 +0200 (MET DST)
From: Thierry Goubier <Thierry.Goubier at enst-bretagne.fr>
Cc: self-interest at self.sunlabs.com
you can find it on ftp://self.smli.com/mario/self/Snapshot.smallUI2.gz
(sorry to have looked inside mario's part of the ftp server)
No problem -- anything that's there is OK for public consumption.
P.S. : For the rest of the list... could anybody remove all thoses
unusables adresses which pop ups days after the send with a subject
"Unknown Address" or the like ? I can give a list of theses addresses (I
collect all undelivered mail on my messages).
I really wanted to address this part of the message.
I currently maintain the mailing list. About a year ago we switched
to the unmoderated format, where any message to the list goes out
automatically, instead of me having to resend it. I prefer this
format because (a) it means less work for me, which means the messages
go out in a timely manner, and (b) the message headers are from the
true sender, not me.
The downside is that any problems in delivering the mail are sent back
to the originator. I get a copy too, so if you see any problems, you
can ignore them, safe in the knowledge they will be dealt with
eventually. If someone knows how to set up sendmail -- I'm no
sendmail expert, and, frankly, have no desire to become one -- so that
the errors come only to me, I would really appreciate being told. So
much so, I think I'll offer a free Self mug to the first person who
gives me information leading to a working solution!
However, in my defense, I would like to point out that the rate of
decay of email addresses is very high. Self-interest currently has
about 300 subscribers. I would estimate that one of these addresses
becomes invalid on average every day or two, presumably because the
recipient's account has moved. Additionally, for every invalid
address, there are typically 5 delivery failures, due to machines
being down, and similar problems. And, of course, many machines
insist on telling the sender, and me, that there are delivery problems
at 1, 3, 5 and sometimes even 10 and 30 day intervals! So, the result
is that I get a lot of reports of bounced email, and much of it isn't
helpful because the problem will be fixed in a few days without my
intervention. Occasionally, however, there is an address that has
become bad and nothing is going to fix it, so I have to remove it from
My strategy in these cases is to wait until several messages to that
address have bounced, after which I will remove it from the list and
send a notification message to the address, just in case the problem
If anyone knows a better way (and by "better" it must involve no extra
work for me ;-), I'd like to hear it...
Meanwhile, continue sending stuff to the list, and just ignore any
messages you get about delivery problems -- I'm on top of it.
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