David.Ungar at Eng.Sun.COM
Sat Oct 24 00:55:34 UTC 1992
My own experience bears out the utility of these things,
but I recall (from the days when I helped Frank Jackson design and implement
the PPS collector) that somehow the existence of weak
pointers cluttered up all the storage management code.
Maybe we just didn't find the cleanest way to do it.
> From urs at otis.Stanford.Edu Fri Oct 23 09:45:08 1992
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> Subject: Re: Weak Arrays
> To: self-interest at myself.stanford.edu
> Date: Fri, 23 Oct 92 17:45:34 BST
> In-Reply-To: <Yetqg_u0=c_L9fuvAO at cello.ecn.purdue.edu>; from "William R
> Burdick" at Oct 22, 92 10:01 pm
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> Resent-From: Urs Hoelzle <urs at otis.Stanford.Edu>
> >mistakes, please) In ParcPlace's Smalltalk 4.0, they started using a gener-
> >ational garbage collector (like Self does) and they included a new type of
> >collection called a 'WeakArray,' which they use to solve exactly this type
> >of problem. A weak array can have objects it references garbage collected
> >right out from under it. Weak arrays are also periodically 'informed' when
> >their elements die, so that you can do some cleaning up if you want.
> >I'm sure this kind of thing isn't all that hard to implement (for all I know,
> >Self may already have something like this). This would be a usefull addition
> >to the wish-list, if it isn't there, though..
> > -- Bill
> I've just implemented weak referees (WeakArray, WeakOrderedCollection etc)
> and finalization (objects with a finalize method get sent finalize when they're
> about to die) in my deferred reference counting collector. It took three days
> to do (because I made some stupid mistakes). If you have a working garbage
> collector that you understand and some spare bits in objects (you can usually
> shrink the size field) it should be very easy to implement.
> I don't like the fact that the ParcPlace scheme
> 1. indivisibly links WeakArrays & finalization
> 2. only gives you WeakArray
> My scheme keeps weak references and finalization orthogonal, and allows
> any object with indexed fields to have weak references if it uses a 'weakAtPut'
> primitive in place of the standard weakAtPut.
> Eliot Miranda, Lecturer email: eliot at dcs.qmw.ac.uk
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