One of the problems with Self is that few people can see it running as the machines needed to run it are not that common.

If somebody could set up a computer that people on the internet could telnet to ( if they have a fast enough connection ) and run the Self tutorial, it might make a lot more people interested in the language. The needed protection might be a problem ( you can do a lot of damage from inside Self ) but could be worked out. I would also disable saving Snapshots so that one user couldn't mess things up for the next one.

Of course, running X over the net can give people a bad impression of a program. Even so, I think Self is something that has to be seen to be believed!

Just an idea... -- Jecel

Actually, we are thinking of establishing a machine outside pf Sun's firewall. Because you could share screens, and travel around on the infinite Self plain, Self would instantly be a "graphical MUD." Or "MOO," in fact. It would be interesting to see the performace of X over the raw internet. I hear it is terrible, but I have not personally observed it.