Hi guys,
I retreated to Ubuntu 7.04 (and GCC 4.1) and rebuilt the linux VM from the CVS sources.
The normal 4.3 barebones snapshot works with the exception of X (and thus morphic). This isn't suprising as it needs modifications to let it know it is running on Linux. I'm working through those.
The 4.1-based gleibe.de/self image works as well, with partial success in opening a morphic window. Basically, after every X call (I think) it freezes; _Flush brings very temporary relief. If I execute something like "[ _Flush ] loop", I get a working but vvveeerrryyy ssslllooowwww morphic interface.
Cheers,
Russell
Hi guys,
In the end it turned out to be really simple, requiring almost no changes to the Self build system or code.
After building a new snapshot from the CVS tree I now have a working virtual machine and snapshot combination running on Ubuntu 7.04, 8.04 and OpenSuse.
I also built a new MacOS X vm to run the new snapshot.
(The new vms and snapshot aren't backwards compatible - you can't run the new snapshot on an old vm or open an old snapshot in the new vms without errors. This is mostly GUI stuff - the change from Carbon to Quartz primitives on the Mac side and changes to how X is called on the Linux side)
So Self now runs on Linux.
Cheers,
Russell
On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 12:43:31 +1000, Russell Allen mail@russell-allen.com wrote:
Hi guys,
I retreated to Ubuntu 7.04 (and GCC 4.1) and rebuilt the linux VM from the CVS sources.
The normal 4.3 barebones snapshot works with the exception of X (and thus morphic). This isn't suprising as it needs modifications to let it know it is running on Linux. I'm working through those.
The 4.1-based gleibe.de/self image works as well, with partial success in opening a morphic window. Basically, after every X call (I think) it freezes; _Flush brings very temporary relief. If I execute something like "[ _Flush ] loop", I get a working but vvveeerrryyy ssslllooowwww morphic interface.
Cheers,
Russell
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Russell,
Are your changes turned over to CVS for the Mac changes? Will there be a packaged version prebuilt for those of us that are lazy?
Michael
On Oct 23, 2008, at 3:57 PM, Russell Allen wrote:
Hi guys,
In the end it turned out to be really simple, requiring almost no changes to the Self build system or code.
After building a new snapshot from the CVS tree I now have a working virtual machine and snapshot combination running on Ubuntu 7.04, 8.04 and OpenSuse.
I also built a new MacOS X vm to run the new snapshot.
(The new vms and snapshot aren't backwards compatible - you can't run the new snapshot on an old vm or open an old snapshot in the new vms without errors. This is mostly GUI stuff - the change from Carbon to Quartz primitives on the Mac side and changes to how X is called on the Linux side)
So Self now runs on Linux.
Cheers,
Russell
On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 12:43:31 +1000, Russell Allen <mail@russell-allen.com
wrote:
Hi guys,
I retreated to Ubuntu 7.04 (and GCC 4.1) and rebuilt the linux VM from the CVS sources.
The normal 4.3 barebones snapshot works with the exception of X (and thus morphic). This isn't suprising as it needs modifications to let it know it is running on Linux. I'm working through those.
The 4.1-based gleibe.de/self image works as well, with partial success in opening a morphic window. Basically, after every X call (I think) it freezes; _Flush brings very temporary relief. If I execute something like "[ _Flush ] loop", I get a working but vvveeerrryyy ssslllooowwww morphic interface.
Cheers,
Russell
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Hi Michael,
The Mac changes are already in CVS - you just need to build a new VM+Snapshot. I didn't make any changes myself.
In terms of building the linux vm, I'll post build instructions when I get a chance to write them up. It's quite straightforward.
In the meantime, if you go to russell-allen.com/computing/self/ there's a zip file with a MacOS X vm, linux vm and Snapshot.
Russell
On Fri, 24 Oct 2008 10:10:31 +1100, Michael Latta lattam@mac.com wrote:
Russell,
Are your changes turned over to CVS for the Mac changes? Will there be a packaged version prebuilt for those of us that are lazy?
Michael
On Oct 23, 2008, at 3:57 PM, Russell Allen wrote:
Hi guys,
In the end it turned out to be really simple, requiring almost no changes to the Self build system or code.
After building a new snapshot from the CVS tree I now have a working virtual machine and snapshot combination running on Ubuntu 7.04, 8.04 and OpenSuse.
I also built a new MacOS X vm to run the new snapshot.
(The new vms and snapshot aren't backwards compatible - you can't run the new snapshot on an old vm or open an old snapshot in the new vms without errors. This is mostly GUI stuff - the change from Carbon to Quartz primitives on the Mac side and changes to how X is called on the Linux side)
So Self now runs on Linux.
Cheers,
Russell
On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 12:43:31 +1000, Russell Allen <mail@russell-allen.com
wrote:
Hi guys,
I retreated to Ubuntu 7.04 (and GCC 4.1) and rebuilt the linux VM from the CVS sources.
The normal 4.3 barebones snapshot works with the exception of X (and thus morphic). This isn't suprising as it needs modifications to let it know it is running on Linux. I'm working through those.
The 4.1-based gleibe.de/self image works as well, with partial success in opening a morphic window. Basically, after every X call (I think) it freezes; _Flush brings very temporary relief. If I execute something like "[ _Flush ] loop", I get a working but vvveeerrryyy ssslllooowwww morphic interface.
Cheers,
Russell
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Hi !
Congrats for that work.
It's a pitty that the snapshots are no longer compatible with the new VM's ... I guess this has to do with the kind of persistence employed (a snapshot).
Salud ! Baltasar
Hi Baltasar,
Strictly speaking, the snapshots per se are still compatible but since the new VM has different primitives to the 4.3 vm, the gui on a 4.3 snapshot won't work.
Command line only snapshots seem to work for me, and I suppose if the platform differences were refactored you could make a 'cross-vm' snapshot.
Russell
On Fri, 24 Oct 2008 18:35:06 +1100, J. Baltasar García Perez-Schofield jbgarcia@uvigo.es wrote:
Hi !
Congrats for that work.
It's a pitty that the snapshots are no longer compatible with the new VM's ... I guess this has to do with the kind of persistence employed (a snapshot).
Salud !
Baltasar
Way cool! Good work!
--Randy
On Oct 23, 2008, at 3:57 PM, Russell Allen wrote:
Hi guys,
In the end it turned out to be really simple, requiring almost no changes to the Self build system or code.
After building a new snapshot from the CVS tree I now have a working virtual machine and snapshot combination running on Ubuntu 7.04, 8.04 and OpenSuse.
I also built a new MacOS X vm to run the new snapshot.
(The new vms and snapshot aren't backwards compatible - you can't run the new snapshot on an old vm or open an old snapshot in the new vms without errors. This is mostly GUI stuff - the change from Carbon to Quartz primitives on the Mac side and changes to how X is called on the Linux side)
So Self now runs on Linux.
Cheers,
Russell
On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 12:43:31 +1000, Russell Allen <mail@russell-allen.com
wrote:
Hi guys,
I retreated to Ubuntu 7.04 (and GCC 4.1) and rebuilt the linux VM from the CVS sources.
The normal 4.3 barebones snapshot works with the exception of X (and thus morphic). This isn't suprising as it needs modifications to let it know it is running on Linux. I'm working through those.
The 4.1-based gleibe.de/self image works as well, with partial success in opening a morphic window. Basically, after every X call (I think) it freezes; _Flush brings very temporary relief. If I execute something like "[ _Flush ] loop", I get a working but vvveeerrryyy ssslllooowwww morphic interface.
Cheers,
Russell
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